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                                                Dog Foods we have tried  ~ red is good
1. Pedigree Pro Plan  ~ Dogs did NOT like, caused hot spots Horrible food
2. Bill Jac dogs loved it . But can not free feed cause it has allot of sugar .
3. Diamond ~ Killed dogs in recall  Caused the runs ,Flatulence , hot spots
4. Eukanuba ~     Caused the runs did not really like it too much.
5. Science Diet ~  Did not like it .
6. Most  Canned dog food makes them  runny in the stools .So we mix in a bit of Cat food wet or chopped
7.  Walmart/SamsClub dog food ~ Caused allot of smelly stools and hot spots.
8. Royal Canin Natural Blend - Great food not all dogs like it - pricey -hard to find
9. Pedigree dogs like it - allot of stools not feeding any more.
10. Iams BAD Poops!
10. Chicken Soup not bad but teddy did not like it
11. Nutro NC and MAx when bad when company was sold look at the dog food anyallis
12. Nutro Ultra very good food but very pricey
13. Triumph great Maintence food not good for studs or pregnant bitches.
14. Breeders Choice Bland great food for injuries
15. Innova- BEST FOOD
16. Solid Gold *** too high protein for young dogs.
17 Taste of the wild

Notes: Food 1. Too much of 1 thing is not good   2. Vareity is the spice of life, 3 HIGh price does not mean better.
4. this breed is NOT man made they got feed raw food for centuries and hunted

                                      Dog food Comments and feeding of FF dogs 
                                     This is simply trial and error for 20 years
                 We monitor food recalls , updates and prices. This will reflect current status
               A 7 week old puppy does NOT need the same nutrients requirements as a Senior
                            Click dog food < and see where your food lies in quality

Adult Dogs  1  to 7  Yrs  Females      Triumph Dog food All Natural NO Corn What or Soy
We increase intake by adding raw organ meet in winter to gain winter fat for outside dogs.
Studs need more protein then this food offer we now feed raw lamb, beef ..
Foods that worked before was Nutro Ultra puppy high protein ( after 15 months)
32% good - 42% too high not active enough

Senior Dogs:  8 Yrs +                                Innova Senior.
All Adult Dogs Summer                               Fruits- veggies- Raw - Triumph
Older Puppies 3 Months +                            Raw -trying Taste of the Wild next
If you get any issue with Pano with huge males switch to less than  18-22 % protein

Newborns/Moms/Pups: New we will try Taste of the Wild Wild Fowl 32% for nest litter, in past we tried
Nutro NC went bad when company was sold, Chicken soup (ok) and then Innova Puppy great but very pricey
We will try TOTW in March 09 and get back to you + Cottage Cheese, Cheese Snacks, Oranges, Tangerines, no wet dog food, Bread,Chicken quarters.
All dogs & Pups:                           Fresh Chicken quarters , Bone Marrow, Cheese
Few Times a Week :                       Veggies - Fruits- Fish  (Tuna no OIL or Wet Cat food) Bread.
On Occasion:                               Raw Bacon, Chopped Meats, Raw Eggs, Cooked Eggs, Turkey
If in Season:                               Summer Cantaloupe - Carrots  winter Broccoli- Potatoes Oranges 
We have decided that there is NO one perfect food for every dog . 
Each dog has its own nutritional needs &, to make matters worse they change over the years...

No grapes -cherries - Raw hide chews, No cooked chicken with bones
No choke chains on multi dog house holds for play,NO letting dogs loose.
No listening to trainer or Vet over breeders advice call me
No Hitting pups or dogs with rolled up newspaper NO putting nose in poop
No SPay young NO neuter Young

Joint Care Anti Pano is Breeders Choice Active care available at Petco good for males and females



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Understanding  a Label
                                      Vitamins- Supplements
                 NO Calcium's, or Multi Vitamins including Nu VeT
\NO FRONTLINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!2009 UPDATE

Glocosamine- Vitamin C and Vitamin E.  MSN, Chrontin is great
During growth spurts.

But you need a min of 2,000 mgs a day to make a difference on these size dogs.
Buy Pureform for multi dogs or Flex Aid for one dog                           Vaccines & Deworming Mirco Chips Vet Visits:
                                NO combining all shots in one vet visit
                                                     4 Weeks De Worm Nemex
                                                     5 Weeks 5 way no distemper/lepto
                                                     6 Weeks De Worm Nemex
                                                     7 Weeks 5 Way NO Lepto Pro Guard
                                                     8 Deworm and Brochine-
                                                     10 Weeks 5 Way NO Lepto Pro Guard
                         Vet visits: 1 Day Old, 5 Weeks litter , & each pup  separate before pickup/ pickup.
                                                       Avid MircoChip Done by Vet Last Visit
                                     Mircochips all pups are Avid Chipped See below for link
Notes :We do not believe in over vaccinating -over loading the puppy with tons of shots it may not need.
However we have NEVER lost a puppy to any disease and we want to keep it that way
IF you have Lepto, Corona ,Lyme in your area then after the pup gets to you please vaccinate for these.
You will have have to get shots every 3 weeks until 16 weeks 2-3 sets after you get a young puppy.
Last minute pick up is not allowed unless the Vet Visit is done....
                                                       House Breaking Tips
These pups are born in the house and moved outside with livestock at a later date.
Because without the full time socialization around humans they do not able to function in today's homes.
So they are bedded down on shavings inside the house and in the barn.
So taking a few shavings into one area will help them find one spot they should go into.
We use newspapers and wee wee pads inside the house and they start using them as early as 4 wks.
    At 5 weeks they start using the doggie door to go outside on to the deck and 6 wks to the farm.
So a doggie door is recommended for Pet owners to make life easier .
Only draw back is in our Winter litters the pups don't see grass thus they have a habit of picking the back deck vs the grass until they know what grass is.
NEVER yell at your CAS pup or hit it with a rolled up paper. You break that trust you will never regain it.
Just use your happy voice all the time and when they do something wrong say WHAT DID YOU DO?
They know the tones of your voice well and will pick up on it.
                                                                 Spay ~ Neuter:
                                          Females recommended 9 months to 12 Months
                               Can do as early as you wish not early that 9 months is preferred .
                                    Unless a situation arises that a unplanned litter is at risk.
                   All our Pet Females sold are required to be Spayed _ unless otherwise specified.
Neuter we do NOT require yo to neuter your male-=
                                           Co Contracts on Breeding dogs: ?
                                               We DO NOT require you to ever breed the dog.
                                  We DO NOT require you to give the dog back to us for breeding.
    It Does allow you to fix the dog any time you wish or keep intact & show the dog to a stud position.
                                                  With few exceptions lost lines etc.
You must complete the list of proving the dog before breeding.
For females u must have buyers before you breed and you must have room to take them back.
And time to talk to them like I do for u. I do not have the time to spend more on the tel with other litters than my own.  Contract statest clearly  you own the dog & take fully legal responsibility for it.
The  only part we co own is the reproduction. not the pups that come out of the breeding.
But we picked you to breed our dogs cause you will be carefull to protect our lines.

If you dogs wind up in shelters I will refuse to SIGN any future breedings.

                               
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Update of fencing
Signs dogs are present.
Doube Handle Leash
Martingale


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Personal Notes :  Remember there is NO reason you can not call me .
You need help with the pup or the pup has to come back because for whatever the reason.

Don't want to call me because  you think I  wont understand?
Look Ive had dinner with a President of a Bank a friend in the Village dressed in drag.
Their is NOTHING that could happen  that will make me judge you or surprise me.
As long as my dog is well cared for that is.

I am here for you 24-7 same farm - same telephone ,  same hubby for 20 years im not going any where.

But know this you dump my dog in a shelter or give it away
An I promise I will HUNT you down get the dog back  + make you PAY for the stress you caused my pup & me.
Up to including suing you for everything you got & more.
The award  minus expenses will be donate to Angie at Ovcharka rescue.

And some say I can be a  bitch, I am a Native New Yorker we will give you the shirt off our back as evident  on 9-11 we also willing to throw down any time someone wishes to get jiggy with it. It is called survival mode- High defense drive , think the dogs are tough - wait to you see me in gear.

So love my dogs like their are your own kids and we should be just fine.
Would rather have my dogs killed out working that shot by hunters when unfenced.

Jeannine D
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by Jeannine DePalma on 08/04/11

Performance and working farm is up.

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