Jeannine De Palma
We specialize in the Ancient type of Central Asian Shepherd dog . 
           Family dogs that work with other dogs, cats, livestock and big families.   
Runs in the family FF Kim Possible & MOM FF JLo Looks Outs                  
                           Our Mission StatementTo Preserve vs change or improve: 
Adding 2013 , NO we don't breed for 'pets? housands of pet dogs die every day in the USA.  You want a pet go to the pound, save a life.   If more breeders bred for function & not the pet market. The shelters would not be full. . I worked in SPCA when I was a kid. When they used gas chambers.. I watched them walk ttheir last walk. So excuse my bluntness regarding proper breeding ethics... Most all the rescue issues come from Pet people who buy a dog bred to work , When the dog kicks back to function vs sitting on a couch. They don't know what to do and their backyard breeders don't either . So we breed for the original purpose of the breed family pack oriented working dogs.. Yet most of our dogs do function in the family guardian role. Each litter has different temperaments , so we test for it and make matches..   
 We practice STRICT Natural Selection in our breeding .   Which we  have based on old world working lines_ not show lines or fighting lines.      We have selected 4 Generations of correct guardian temperaments.      They are guardians first & foremost .      We have refused to change to meet the insane requirements of the show world.      By adapting our methods of handling ,choosing  venues/judges that prefer working dogs.                                                      
                                                                                  Our breeding decisions are based on performance not ribbons.       

AkBel 1963                                                                Princess Ali . 2000                               FF Gandy 2009
                                   Ali is  5 generation pedigree working titled dog from aboriginal lines .Only one in USA
                                                     Before the breed was changed in the last  15 years.
                       She is the base of our line with 3 outcross males. Certified Excellent FCI RKF Polinova
                                     Her generations  have taken on Cougar, Bear, & Car jackers .   
                                Yet in the modern world she would be discarded for not being a show dog.


Naturally protective or trained protective?              
     Natural stable pack oriented guardian temps are being selected away from. Instead aggression is being marketed as protective.
                   Real CAS do not need training to protect they need socialization to understand not all strangers are "threats"
               Dogs being promoted as Protection dogs , being trained to protect are modern CAO not CAS. 
               Testing a dogs natural ability is NOT the same as training the dog on weekends to understand what a REAL threat is.
                         Or training the dog to be stable? No such thing-  Training does not replace good judgement..
                                         What happens to their own judgement when you are NOT there?  
                                                                Warning    Other web sites:?
                                                     So yes we broke the Mafia Code Of  Silence . We stand up for the dogs this results in enemies.
                                      Special note anyone can file a FAKE complainant about their competition., 
                                        Rip off wants 3j to remove a fake report about me made from a fake email. that is Extortion...
                     We sent a DNA challenge to UKC for a crossbred Litter of Central Asian Shepherds bred iby maxomagic reg as purebred.
                                   We won the challenge and  now the breeders friends stalks us trying to hide the truth by creating drama
                                                            Rant breeding for the show ring first                                                         
                                       All this past CHANGE to other breeds have proven time & time again _to ruin working breeds. 
                                 Inbreeding to recreate a Champion has  created the most serious genetic diseases today's.  
                                         Yet these same dogs_ carriers or affected themselves are Top  STUNNING show dogs.                                       
                                                             Resulting in over breeding despite genetic disorders .
                                             Show breeders set up newbies who are TOTALLY ignorant with the same affected stock -                                    
            Thus creating a Pyramid scheme  in which the truth is hidden .   Massive coverups are a answer to a inherited genetic issue..
                                                        Yet we find excuses NOT to breed a dog not the other way around.  
                                  FoxFire does NOT breed for fancy spotted dogs, or for show friendly dispositions or massive size.
                 Dog shows are not evil,  breeders who care about only winning a dog show sacrifice the dogs natural ability in the process
                                          We show 3-4 X a year to show our dogs are stable in public and working dogs can beat show dogs.
                                                Being the best of the best has made us many a enemy but much more admirers.                                    
                  We started 15 years ago by  importing "WORKING Stock"  vs show dogs. Boy that pissed quite a few people.                                                                                                We used spay & neuter  to substitute natural selection & culling .
                    We adhered to the working standard & bred for the  'strong distrust of strangers , must be amendable to handling" .                                                  
                A must is - allowing natural selection to weed out the weakest.   We do not use modern science to correct what nature selected against.
                                              Dog cant work or needs surgery to breed or whelp we do NOT breed the dog.
                                                      Our ultimate goal to alter as little as possible a group of dogs.
                                                  That were created through natural selection thousands of years ago .
                                                   Thus preserving & maintaining vs. altering the dog of legends.                                                  

                                                             Simply if it aint broke why fix it or in the USA "improve"?  
                                                                                Mr & Mrs Vincenzo De Palma    
                                       Hatred is gained as much by good works as by evil ~ Unknown


 A very big general problem in human vanity & a number of other defects which force many to do it so, that end in itself becomes glory, money, general envy, & sufferings of competitors, instead of preservation of the true qualities of the breed"  Sergey Knyuzev, the professor of faculty of animal husbandry & genetics as it applies to the Central Asian Shepherd dog

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              UKC/USA  Canadian 
        Mexican-Latin Amercian-             International     CGC-TDI- PH
         Only US World Champion 
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Jeannine De Palma

100 new pics in gallery

by Jeannine DePalma on 08/02/11

Working on website , need to add page for Slovakia trip i took. Pics will be out of order due to computer issues this year

Where have you been? Zumba

by Jeannine DePalma on 07/08/11


With the passing of Cozemo and Ali the sadness was overwelming. So i needed  needed to get back to my life before dogs. Even as i type this i tear up.  So i went back to what I did as a young adult when stressed- I danced. Back in brooklyn I taught disco dancing and house. When I found Zumba i was in heaven . For my 45th birthday Vinny sent me to school to be  ZIN instructor. After 8 hour class 7 of which was dancing i passed and i am now a certified reg and gold fitness instructor.

Before I took the class I lost 23 pounds with local Zumba classes. But could not keep up with my old injuries made worse by dog showing for 15 years.

Often during the reg Zumba classes i had to hold hard time keeping up with the speed.  But the gold classes are more of the Salsa and dancing vs the aerobic side. I also have the Zumba home DVD and Wii ganme but rarely find time to do them with tel ringing and dogs work.

So that is why i went for the Zin class, I must admit i assumed the class would be more on the easy side , nope it was BOTH the reg Zumba + once in while we put our Gold hat on . The only combination I could not modify was the tango leg swing backwards. I had  great time. And no pain based on modification to the movement for people with injuries. I kept up with young adults and a older lady out did us all.

I stayed at a local hotel in burlington half off i found on Hotwire Great pool and sauna .  I read my Zumba book and relaxed no dogs just me 1st time in over 11 years. ( me and vinny went to Vegas back in 99). The Zin teacher quickly pinned me NEW YORK since my accent of course stuck out .  

So in conclusion I spent much less time last few months offlline due to my addiction to dancing. Im sorry for my dog folks wanting more dog stuff .. I did NOT breed any Spring Litters cause i wanted the Spring nd Summer off. . I did one breeding for fall, and for the rest of the summer im judging, showing, and creating my Zumba routine. Living life large this year vs life living me last year. I start teaching in the fall, i have to get a recent CPR cerf before I donate my time to local retirement homes.

Thanks Beto for bringing my 1st love home to Buffalo. Now I have all the things i love in life My hubby, my dogs and dancing..

Jeannine DePalma

FF Client Sends Gift

by Jeannine DePalma on 11/11/10

While I was away at dog show with a dog political stress filled weekend.

I came home to this. Thank guys so much I needed this.

PS FF Bobo got a Grp 1 and Grp 2 New Grand Champion,our 5th. FF Gandy grp 1 and FF Spice grp 3. Great weekend

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President of Gamper club

by Jeannine DePalma on 11/04/10

Rohana Mayer posted on your Wall.

Rohana wrote:
"Jeannine thank you for the call yesterday, that was a behavioral question I couldn't figure out and you really nailed it, first sentence out of your mouth! Great to have your expertise around to draw from, there may be a lot of self-proclaimed 'experts' out there on the various related breeds, but you have the down-and-dirty reliable advice when it actually comes to problem solving. Thanks and so glad to have you around! ;)
Also, I called Angie, she will help me with the Caucasian in Burbank, so thank you for the referral."

From Anna Abney About Jeannine De Palma

by Jeannine DePalma on 10/13/10

I am a dog trainer in South Carolina. I have worked with dogs in a professional capacity for nearly 14 years. I have also recently begun competing in conformation, lure coursing, and rally obedience with plans to pursue weight pull and agility as well. I am also an avid backpacker and outdoorswoman and I enjoy taking my dogs with me on my adventures. My dogs must be able to live and work together as I do not have kennels, and they must get along with my best friend and backpacking partner and her pack of 4 show/performance/working dogs. I must be able to rely on my dogs and they must be tough and hardy enough to do all these things involved in my lifestyle. 

Approximately four years ago, I was ready to start looking for a puppy to be my next traildog partner and protector. A backpacking dog who is also a guardian has to have certain qualities, not least of which are a strong body, solid structure, stamina, a bombproof temperament, and a good work ethic.  For years I thought I wanted a German Shepherd Dog but when the time came to start looking, none of them gave me the same flavor as my tough old Chow mix, Eve. They were too eager to please (not really a flaw, just not something I particularly enjoy in a personal dog), require too much training to protect, and are too reactive, to say nothing of the vast array of health problems and a structure that does not lend itself to the carrying of a heavy pack. A friend convinced me to cast a wider net and I discovered the Central Asian Shepherd Dog, a breed I had heard of from other friends with rare breeds. I had, in fact, seen them at rare breed shows in Georgia, but the dogs I had seen had been so unimpressive that I never bothered to find out what they were. Those dogs were too big and sloppy with spooky temperaments. Upon further research, I learned that these were not, in fact, good examples of the breed, as real Central Asian Shepherd Dogs are fast, agile, hardy, tough dogs with exceptionally stable temperaments. They are certainly not a good choice for the average dog owner, but I am not the average dog owner and their traits of stamina, agility, strength, distrust of strangers, and fierce, loving loyalty to family were exactly what I was looking for. I  began looking closely at aboriginal CAS, both old and new pictures and websites, and I liked those types a lot  better. So I began looking for breeders. I discounted the breeder close to me right away as that breeder had produced the show dogs with which I had been so umimpressed previously. What I found was many of the sites on the origins, history, and other information on the breed linked back to one United States breeder: Jeannine de Palma of Foxfire Farms. And her dogs looked like the real aboriginal working dogs, dogs that still to this day protect families and livestock for a living. Plus she had thousands of pictures and video of her dogs doing all kinds of things, not just standing stacked up in a staged photograph. Dogs running, jumping, playing, just being dogs. Dogs with their families, dogs with their livestock, dogs with other dogs. They were happy, healthy family members. There were testimonials from other buyers, many of whom had bought a 2nd and even a 3rd Foxfire CAS. Foxfire Farms clearly emphasized a real, functional dog and show wins were considered the least of a dog's accomplishments.

It was obvious from the start that Jeannine loves her dogs. Even her full-time LGD is a beloved family member. And she is honest and realistic. She doesn't think her dogs are perfect (although some are damn close, whether she admits it or not!), she clearly and logically discusses their faults as well as their strengths, and she publishes her dogs' health and temperament certifications openly. She is also clearly picky about who she sells a puppy to, caring more about the right lifestyle match rather than the ultimate show home, which means she isn't breeding for money or ego. I couldn't just send her $3,000 and have her mail me a puppy. I had to apply, put down a non-refundable deposit to prove I was truly committed, spend hours on the phone getting to know Jeannine and letting her get to know me. And I had to wait. A good breeder doesn't have puppies available all the time. Period. It was months before my puppy was even born and I couldn't take her home until she was 10 weeks old.

>Now my girl, Champion Foxfire's Hell Hath No Fury, aka Astrid, the first U.S. bred Central Asian Shepherd Total Dog, is two years old. She is everything I ever wanted and more. She has proven herself in the ring, but more importantly she has proven herself in real life. She is a loving companion, a willing worker, a stalwart protector, and a loyal friend to me, my other dogs, and my friends. I can take her anywhere, into any situation, without fear of losing control, and at the same time rest easy in the knowledge that she will handle things if someone or something tries to mess with her family or pack. She is calm and laid back, but she is always watching. She is neither too big to  be agile nor too small to be tough. She has the body to stand up to any predator and the brains to know how much force is necessary. She never starts anything but never backs down either. She has tough, thick, loose skin, and a hard, dense double coat to protect her from injury and the elements. She has fluid movement that allows her to travel for miles without fatigue, even while wearing a loaded pack, and still always be able to leap to the defense at a moment's notice. She has the correct scissors bite with large, strong, even white teeth. She is, in short, a superb example of a Central Asian Shepherd Dog.

That is why I have and will continue to have a Foxfire dog. Owners like me, who want real dogs, versatile dogs, reliable dogs, dogs who can go out and do, will never buy some big show dog from a big show kennel. We are too picky and expect too much. You want one of us, someone who can take a puppy all the way, in the ring and out of it, you must produce something worthy of our notice. I can get a lot out of a dog, but I can't get what isn't there. Foxfire dogs have got it. The look of eagles. The dog of  legends. The best.

Anna abney

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God sends us Angels in form of dogs to guide us thru a hard life.
                   Offering us comfort and peace.
But they must return to god so they can be resent to another .
                                      Jeannine De Palma
                                      Princess Ali 2000-2011
                                     FoxFire is closed for calls until 
                                      Ali ashes return home.
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Public Behavior
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                            Notice how the OLD working dogs resemble the colors of the OLDEST known Sheep?
        Karakuls are the oldest known natural breed of sheep from Central Asia. Dated to the same time of the CASDogs
                       They have BLACK face & range in colors from Gray- Brown, Red - Born Black  _ NO WHITE.
                            Now would a  white dog with  load spots = to a Dalmatian stick out just a tad ? , 
                        Much easier target for the poachers/thieves and predators to see_   YOU THINK!!!
           We breed natural colors , we do not SELECT working dogs based on color ,we leave that for the show folk.
         Can you see the Wolf  saying  HEH doggie you are not a popular show style- so it will be ok if we eat the sheep ?
            Note dogs below are smooch monsters just when engaged after something you see the funny side. 

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Only Licenced Judge in the USA based . Based on our 20 years of performance work with the Central Asian Shepherd. 
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Note when you are successful in the world of dogs you have very little time for social media. 
                  UpdatingApril may 2015 
Due to our many judging assigments in 2014 and 2015 including Premier
​we have very little time for social media chatting and groups.
We will publish a list of approved breeders shortly.

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